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Rope support is used in a case when the climber belayed from top needs help by lifting up while performing a hard move. It can be also employed as a support to the second climber during rescue if second climber just needs a bit of help to complete the ascend.

Rope support is used in a case when the climber belayed from top needs help by lifting up while performing a hard move. It can be also employed as a support to the second climber during rescue if second climber just needs a bit of help to complete the ascend. The system is a 2:1 [[pulley]] system built from [[carabiner]] and [[prusik_knot|prusik]], using [[tuber]] in guide mode as a ratchet.

== Building the rope support ==

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|File:rope_support_atc_step1.png

|This rope support can be performed only from ~~top~~

|This rope support can be performed only while belaying from above

|File:rope_support_atc_step2.png

|Start with a tie-off of the tuber (1)

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|File:rope_support_atc_step7.png

|Now you are ready to provide the rope support

|File:rope_support_atc_step7alt.png

|Alternatively, this is an illustration of the finished setup without the redirecting quickdraw and with unlocked carabiner for Prusik

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== Using the rope support ==

When you give a rope support, it is best practice to have a short prusik and always slide it on the live strand of the rope as far as you can easily reach with your hand. Otherwise you have to reset the prusik more often, slowing-down the process.

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|110px

|File:rope_support_atc_pull_step1.png

|Pull the belay rope end up to lift your climbing partner

|File:rope_support_atc_pull_step2.png

|After the ATC gets unblocked, additional slack is taken out of the system

|File:rope_support_atc_pull_step3.png

|Once the pulley is in its top position, grab the belay strand between the tuber and the carabiner

|File:rope_support_atc_pull_step4.png

|Reset the pulley by sliding the prusik down on the live strand of the rope

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== Removing the rope support ==

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|File:rope_support_atc_dismantle_step1.png|110px

|Tie off the tuber to get your hand free

|File:rope_support_atc_dismantle_step2.png|110px

|Unscrew and remove the carabiner and prusik

|File:rope_support_atc_dismantle_step3.png|110px

|Remove the tie off, remember to keep at least one hand on the rope during this step

|File:rope_support_atc_step1.png|135px

|Now you can continue with the belaying

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Alternatively, you do not need to tie off the tuber in case that while removing the Prusik with the carabiner, you always keep one hand on the break strand.

== Efficiency note ==

As the ATC adds a lot of friction to this system, the pulley theoretically gives only 2:1 leverage as only the belay strand part of the rope which is behind the ATC is active during pulling. However, 3:1 length of slack relative to lift height must be taken, as the rope must still be pulled through the ATC. Real world testing done by John Gordino (Alpinesavvy) shown that in reality, due to a friction, it provides only roughly 1.5:1 leverage.<ref name=friction_alpinesavvy>{{cite web | url=https://www.alpinesavvy.com/blog/progress-capture-efficiencies-of-various-devices | title=Progress capture - efficiencies of various devices | publisher=Alpinesavvy LLC | first1=John | last1=Godino | website=AlpineSavvy.com | access-date=27 September 2025 | url-status=live | archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20211119020952/https://www.alpinesavvy.com/blog/progress-capture-efficiencies-of-various-devices | archive-date=19 November 2021}}</ref> That means that for a 75 kg climber, 50 kg of weight has still to be pulled up with three times the length of the rope to be pulled compared to system without the pulley. That is the reason why this pulley system gives only enough of support to help the climber with a difficult move, but does not enable to pull the climber up in more severe rescue scenarios.

== References ==

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-Rope support is used in a case when the climber belayed from top needs help by lifting up while performing a hard move. It can be also employed as a support to the second climber during rescue if second climber just needs a bit of help to complete the ascend.
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+Rope support is used in a case when the climber belayed from top needs help by lifting up while performing a hard move. It can be also employed as a support to the second climber during rescue if second climber just needs a bit of help to complete the ascend. The system is a 2:1 [[pulley]] system built from [[carabiner]] and [[prusik_knot|prusik]], using [[tuber]] in guide mode as a ratchet.
 == Building the rope support ==
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 |135px
 |File:rope_support_atc_step1.png
-|This rope support can be performed only from top
+|This rope support can be performed only while belaying from above
 |File:rope_support_atc_step2.png
 |Start with a tie-off of the tuber (1)
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 |File:rope_support_atc_step7.png
 |Now you are ready to provide the rope support
+|File:rope_support_atc_step7alt.png
+|Alternatively, this is an illustration of the finished setup without the redirecting quickdraw and with unlocked carabiner for Prusik
 }}
+== Using the rope support ==
+When you give a rope support, it is best practice to have a short prusik and always slide it on the live strand of the rope as far as you can easily reach with your hand. Otherwise you have to reset the prusik more often, slowing-down the process.
+{{#invoke:FlexGallery|gallery
+|110px
+|File:rope_support_atc_pull_step1.png
+|Pull the belay rope end up to lift your climbing partner
+|File:rope_support_atc_pull_step2.png
+|After the ATC gets unblocked, additional slack is taken out of the system
+|File:rope_support_atc_pull_step3.png
+|Once the pulley is in its top position, grab the belay strand between the tuber and the carabiner
+|File:rope_support_atc_pull_step4.png
+|Reset the pulley by sliding the prusik down on the live strand of the rope
+}}
+== Removing the rope support ==
+{{#invoke:FlexGallery|gallery_with_widths
+|File:rope_support_atc_dismantle_step1.png|110px
+|Tie off the tuber to get your hand free
+|File:rope_support_atc_dismantle_step2.png|110px
+|Unscrew and remove the carabiner and prusik
+|File:rope_support_atc_dismantle_step3.png|110px
+|Remove the tie off, remember to keep at least one hand on the rope during this step
+|File:rope_support_atc_step1.png|135px
+|Now you can continue with the belaying
+}}
+Alternatively, you do not need to tie off the tuber in case that while removing the Prusik with the carabiner, you always keep one hand on the break strand.
+== Efficiency note ==
+As the ATC adds a lot of friction to this system, the pulley theoretically gives only 2:1 leverage as only the belay strand part of the rope which is behind the ATC is active during pulling. However, 3:1 length of slack relative to lift height must be taken, as the rope must still be pulled through the ATC. Real world testing done by John Gordino (Alpinesavvy) shown that in reality, due to a friction, it provides only roughly 1.5:1 leverage.<ref name=friction_alpinesavvy>{{cite web | url=https://www.alpinesavvy.com/blog/progress-capture-efficiencies-of-various-devices | title=Progress capture - efficiencies of various devices | publisher=Alpinesavvy LLC  | first1=John | last1=Godino | website=AlpineSavvy.com | access-date=27 September 2025 | url-status=live | archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20211119020952/https://www.alpinesavvy.com/blog/progress-capture-efficiencies-of-various-devices | archive-date=19 November 2021}}</ref> That means that for a 75 kg climber, 50 kg of weight has still to be pulled up with three times the length of the rope to be pulled compared to system without the pulley. That is the reason why this pulley system gives only enough of support to help the climber with a difficult move, but does not enable to pull the climber up in more severe rescue scenarios.
 == References ==